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Informational Interviews: The Win-Win Conversation

February 9 2010


Just came out of a coaching session with a brilliant, gorgeous top credentialed lawyer who was dizzy from all the vague career advice that she’s been getting. Once I got her into a chair, gave her something to drink, she breathed heavily, stared deeply into the glass of cold water I gave her, she paused silently for a while and then she suddenly looked up at me with wide eyes and asked "What EXACTLY IS an *($%0 Informational Interview and why would ANYONE ever agree to giving me one!!???

Well, that was the impetus for this little article. Informational interviews…hmmm..lately it seems like the universal panacea for everything from baldness to career nirvana. So I thought I’d try to set the record straight about the I.I.

In my view there are a couple of ground rules about I.I: First, when asking for one, don’t use the term I.I; it makes people squirm, wring their hands and feel guilty. “Interview” means “I wanna job” and if they cannot offer you one, they may feel uncomfortable wasting your time. Ask for a 15 minute meeting or coffee to talk about what they do. People love to talk about themselves and are more likely to agree. Second, you should go into an I.I. with one of four goals in mind: 1) making a new connection with someone in your desired practice area (1 Point: Networking); 2) finding out if that person may be able to suggest someone else you should speak with or connect with (2 Points: Now you are really networking; 3) making a memorable impression so that if something does open up you are on their mind (3 Points: networking and getting a toe in the door); or 4) gently exploring whether there is an “internal opening” and who you should reach out to about it (4 Points: networking, foot in the door plus a contact person). My thought is…think about the I.I. like a strategic conversation that is always a win-win for you..because you are connecting and widening your sphere of knowledge and influence.

From the interviewer’s perspective, there are a couple of bonuses that motivates them to meet you. First, believe it or not, people like to help other people; especially when the expectations are very low and the upside for feeling good about yourself is so high. Everyone at some point got a break; people like to pay it forward. Secondly, many people are isolated in their jobs. This gives THEM a chance to mentor, be a leader, give advice o or meet someone new and expand their sphere of influence. Finally, all successful people know that talent can sometimes be found in the most unlikely of places. The person who is “doing you a favor” might actually be able to present you to someone and make themselves “look good.”

All reasons to schedule that…well you know…that “coffee”.

 

Elena Kaspi, JD, MSW, ACC is a certified, highly trained and experienced Executive Career Coach who specializes in Professional Development and Leadership Coaching for lawyers in both the public and private sectors. Elena has dedicated the last ten years of her professional life to mentoring and advising attorneys regarding their career possibilities. As a practicing litigator with a large New York firm and Director of Legal Recruiting with a prominent international recruiting company, Elena had the benefit of meeting with and listening to the career ambitions and concerns of hundreds of lawyers. Over time, Elena identified a need in the legal marketplace for unbiased, trained, professional executive career coaching and mentoring. With that in mind, Elena created LawScope Coaching to meet the career needs of lawyers at every stage of their professional development.

Ms. Kaspi received her B.A. from Princeton University where she graduated magna cum laude and she received her J.D. from The Georgetown University Law Center where she graduated with honors. She graduated with a Masters in Clinical Social Work from New York University and completed a Fellowship in Psychoanalysis through the New York University Psychoanalytic Institute. She is a Associate Certified Career Coach through the International Coaching Federation and she is a member of the International Coaching Federation and the New York Chapter of the International Coaching Federation.

She is an active member of the Committee on Career Advancement and Management of Association of the Bar of City of New York, the Committee for Women in the Law for the New York State Bar Association, and the subcommittee on Lawyers in Transition for the New York State Bar Association. Additionally she is a frequent writer, speaker, panelist and media expert on topics related to workplace dynamics, legal career issues, career success and professional development.